{"id":4768,"date":"2021-05-06T10:21:14","date_gmt":"2021-05-06T09:21:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.shindig-magazine.com\/?p=4768"},"modified":"2021-05-06T10:21:14","modified_gmt":"2021-05-06T09:21:14","slug":"matt-berry-talks-with-shindig-ahead-of-the-release-of-his-new-album-the-blue-elephant","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/?p=4768","title":{"rendered":"Matt Berry talks with Shindig! ahead of the release of his new album, The Blue Elephant"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Since signing to Acid Jazz Records in 2010, MATT BERRY has become the most prolific artist in the label\u2019s history, releasing eight albums throughout a 10-year period. He began that decade as a little-known comedic actor whose homemade recordings had rarely been heard outside of his inner circle; at its conclusion, he was a BAFTA winner (for <em>Toast Of London<\/em>) who had drawn international acclaim for a hugely ambitious discography that evinces, with often jaw-dropping sonic detail, a near-lifelong love of psychedelia, prog and folk-rock. (It makes sense that one of his first albums was a gifted copy of <em>The Complete Mike Oldfield<\/em>.)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>This month, Berry releases yet another album, less than a year after its predecessor: the suite-like psychedelic opus <em>The Blue Elephant<\/em>, which was recorded entirely during lockdown. (Berry self-produced and played every instrument except drums.) As part of our history of Acid Jazz (in issue #116), Berry spoke to\u00a0MICHAEL WHITE from Toronto, where he was filming the Emmy-nominated series <em>What We Do in The Shadows<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Matt Berry - Summer Sun (Official Video)\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/G_YZZKgWOBQ?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Shindig!:<\/strong>\u00a0<\/em>What was your relationship to Acid Jazz before signing to them? Were you a long-time fan?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Mattt Berry:<\/strong> I was a huge fan, for lots of reasons. One was, you\u2019ve got to remember this was back in the \u201990s, when it wasn\u2019t easy to get every kind of record you wanted. I was into Hammond organ and groove stuff \u2013 \u201960s stuff, psych stuff \u2013 and it was impossible to get hold of that unless you went crate digging, and I was in Nottingham. You <em>could<\/em> do that [there], but luckily there was the Acid Jazz label, which had all of that stuff in terms of compilations, [especially] <em>Hammond Street <\/em>and the <em>Rare Mod<\/em> series. And I continued to be a fan because the great thing about Acid Jazz is, the sort of music they champion and sign, it\u2019s all very timeless. The label\u2019s never been uncool or gone out of fashion, as far as I\u2019m concerned.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-4769\" src=\"https:\/\/www.shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/5f48105ebff28.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"450\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/5f48105ebff28.jpg 600w, https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/5f48105ebff28-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/5f48105ebff28-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/5f48105ebff28-24x24.jpg 24w, https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/5f48105ebff28-48x48.jpg 48w, https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/5f48105ebff28-96x96.jpg 96w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>SD!:\u00a0<\/em><\/strong>How did you come to their attention?<\/p>\n<p><strong>MB:\u00a0<\/strong>It was through a mutual friend. He heard I\u2019d made this folk album \u2013 this is about 2009 \u2013 and he said, \u201cYou know, I think [Acid Jazz co-founder] Eddie Piller might be interested in this.\u201d I was like, \u201c<em>Really?<\/em>\u201d I\u2019d just recorded it all myself, for myself. I was just going to put it out free on the internet. I never told Eddie I was a fan of the label and a fan of him, and it\u2019s a good job because he has the biggest head [<em>laughs<\/em>], so it wouldn\u2019t have done any good at all if I\u2019d have told him that.<\/p>\n<p>So, I went down there, and we sat looking at each other while he played my whole album, and I thought, \u201cIf he doesn\u2019t like it, fair enough.\u201d He didn\u2019t have any pre-existing knowledge of me whatsoever; he hadn\u2019t seen anything I\u2019d done on the TV either. We got to the end of the album and he\u2019s like, \u201cYeah, let\u2019s do this. Let\u2019s do the whole album.\u201d And I was like, \u201cJesus Christ!\u201d [The album was released as <i>\u00a0Witchhazel\u00a0<\/i>in 2011.] Honestly, I didn\u2019t expect it. I already had the front cover, I\u2019d mixed and mastered it myself, so he didn\u2019t really have to do anything. The rest is kind of history. There hasn\u2019t been more than a couple of days since that we haven\u2019t spoken to each other. We immediately got on that day, and I kind of knew that I\u2019d be continuing the journey with this guy. I knew this guy would be in my life most days from now on, and that\u2019s the way it\u2019s been. He and Dean [Rudland, label director] have been everything in terms of my musical outlet. They\u2019ve backed me in every single thing I\u2019ve wanted to do.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Matt Berry - &#039;Take My Hand&#039; (Theme from Toast of London) Official Video\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/Rdqu-HObUbo?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>SD!:\u00a0<\/em><\/strong>Eddie told me he contemplated shutting down the label multiple times over the last 10 years \u2013 particularly after he was diagnosed with throat cancer in 2013 \u2013 and he gives you much of the credit for convincing him to continue.<\/p>\n<p><strong>MB:<\/strong>When he didn\u2019t have the energy to continue with it for lots of reasons \u2013 one of which was that he wasn\u2019t very well, and there wasn\u2019t much money around \u2013 I was in the office and I said, \u201cYou don\u2019t know what this label looks like to everyone else. To me it\u2019s as important as any other record label. It can\u2019t end. There\u2019s much more life in it, and I\u2019m very confident that you\u2019re gonna get through this and the label will continue.\u201d <em>(Note: Piller made a full recovery.)<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong><i><em>SD!:<\/em> <\/i><\/strong>You\u2019re inarguably the most prolific artist Acid Jazz has ever had. You\u2019re so clearly a fan of all sorts of music from a point in history when it was standard practice that a band would release an album every year, or sometimes more often than that. Is that partly what motivates you to be as productive as you are?<\/p>\n<p><strong>MB:\u00a0<\/strong>No. It\u2019s because I have the ideas and I just need to record them. It\u2019s as simple as that: having an idea or wanting to try a different style, a different way of recording. Because it\u2019s up to [the label] whether they put it out of not. I\u2019m going to record it anyway. If they\u2019re into it, fantastic. If they\u2019re not, it doesn\u2019t matter because it\u2019s something I wanted to get off my chest, so to speak. If I have an idea, I need to get it down before I totally forget it or I move on to the next thing.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-4770\" src=\"https:\/\/www.shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/blue_elephant_cover600.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"450\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/blue_elephant_cover600.jpg 600w, https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/blue_elephant_cover600-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/blue_elephant_cover600-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/blue_elephant_cover600-24x24.jpg 24w, https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/blue_elephant_cover600-48x48.jpg 48w, https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/blue_elephant_cover600-96x96.jpg 96w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>SD!:\u00a0<\/em><\/strong><em>The Blue Elephant<\/em> is coming out less than a year after <i>Phantom Birds<\/i>. When did you start work on it?<\/p>\n<p><strong>MB:\u00a0<\/strong>I started it when I was promoting <em>Phantom Birds<\/em>, this time last year [Spring 2020]. I was basically promoting my last album while recording this one. My head was in two different places: I had to talk about <em>Phantom Birds<\/em>, yet I was basically finished with all that and had completely moved on to something else. I finished it at the end of the year.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Matt Berry - The Blue Elephant (Launch Video)\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/-DZGs_BKiuY?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>SD!:<\/em><\/strong>\u00a0Did the pandemic end up being of benefit to you, in terms of your productivity?<\/p>\n<p><strong>MB:\u00a0<\/strong>Probably. I wouldn\u2019t have been able to spend much time on the small details, which are always important, especially with something like this. I think the fact that I immersed myself in it and had nothing else to really get in its way \u2013 it\u2019s one of the albums that I can say I spent a hell of a lot of time on.<\/p>\n<p><b><i><strong><em>SD!:<\/em><\/strong>\u00a0<\/i><\/b>Something I immediately like about this album is that, even more so than what you\u2019ve done before, it seems to actively discourage passive listening. I wonder if that was part of your intention, to try to will back a time when people routinely would put on an album and not do anything else while listening to it from beginning to end?<\/p>\n<p><strong>MB:\u00a0<\/strong>I would hope that everything I\u2019ve recorded is to discourage passive listening. If you\u2019re a passive listener, I don\u2019t think you\u2019d be going anywhere near anything on Acid Jazz. You\u2019d just be having the radio on quietly.<\/p>\n<p>But you\u2019ve kind of hit the nail on the head. Part of the intention of it is to be listened to with your headphones, in the same way that I did with [Jeff Wayne\u2019s] <em>War Of The Worlds<\/em> or the original album of <em>Jesus Christ Superstar<\/em>. It\u2019s got to be an intense, atmospheric sort of experience. That was one of my intentions with <em>The Blue Elephant<\/em>. It isn\u2019t something you can switch off with. It\u2019s going to change gears fairly rapidly at different points.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-4772\" src=\"https:\/\/www.shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Screenshot-2021-05-06-at-10.06.47-966x1024.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"636\" srcset=\"https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Screenshot-2021-05-06-at-10.06.47-966x1024.png 966w, https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Screenshot-2021-05-06-at-10.06.47-283x300.png 283w, https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Screenshot-2021-05-06-at-10.06.47-768x814.png 768w, https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Screenshot-2021-05-06-at-10.06.47-24x24.png 24w, https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Screenshot-2021-05-06-at-10.06.47.png 1134w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong><b><i><em>SD!:<\/em><\/i><\/b><\/strong>\u00a0I\u2019m glad you mentioned headphones, because this is <em>such<\/em> a headphones record. Did you spend a particularly long time mixing it?<\/p>\n<p><strong>MB:<\/strong>\u00a0Yes. I spent a long time on the mixing and mastering. Even incorporating the old-fashioned ways of doing stuff \u2013 like, there\u2019s three moments on the album where the whole of the song goes through a sort of flange\/phaser effect, which is what they used on &#8216;Itchycoo Park&#8217; by The Small Faces, that sort of thing. I had to do some research and basically find out how they did all that, in order for it to sound analogue and as good as it could. I didn\u2019t want it to be a digital plug-in version of it. It had to be done the authentic way. If I hadn\u2019t had the amount of time that I did have, I couldn\u2019t have done all those things, I don\u2019t think&#8230; Doing things the old-fashioned way \u2013 actually, no, the <em>manual <\/em>way \u2013 that\u2019s what I\u2019ve always tried to do.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-4773\" src=\"https:\/\/www.shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Screenshot-2021-05-06-at-10.14.02-1018x1024.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"450\" height=\"453\" srcset=\"https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Screenshot-2021-05-06-at-10.14.02-1018x1024.png 1018w, https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Screenshot-2021-05-06-at-10.14.02-298x300.png 298w, https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Screenshot-2021-05-06-at-10.14.02-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Screenshot-2021-05-06-at-10.14.02-768x773.png 768w, https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Screenshot-2021-05-06-at-10.14.02-24x24.png 24w, https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Screenshot-2021-05-06-at-10.14.02-48x48.png 48w, https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Screenshot-2021-05-06-at-10.14.02-96x96.png 96w, https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Screenshot-2021-05-06-at-10.14.02.png 1020w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong><b><i><em>SD!:<\/em><\/i><\/b><\/strong>\u00a0Have you managed over the years to acquire all of the technology that allows you to achieve this sort of result?<\/p>\n<p><strong>MB:\u00a0<\/strong>Not all of it but some of it, mainly because when I bought a lot of this stuff, it wasn\u2019t very fashionable, and therefore it wasn\u2019t as expensive as it is now. I bought a lot of these organs in the early \u201990s while I was working in a supermarket because they were, like, 100 quid each. It wasn\u2019t digital, so everyone thought it was shit. And it \u201cdidn\u2019t look cool,\u201d whereas I thought it looked <em>very<\/em> cool. I mean, it can be a pain in the ass, because a lot of this stuff breaks down. But every piece of gear sounds slightly different from the other one, which is why it\u2019s better to do that than use something which is in the [digital] box, which always sounds the same for everyone. I don\u2019t want to sound like everyone else who uses the plug-in.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-4774\" src=\"https:\/\/www.shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Screenshot-2021-05-06-at-10.07.04-966x1024.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"678\" srcset=\"https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Screenshot-2021-05-06-at-10.07.04-966x1024.png 966w, https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Screenshot-2021-05-06-at-10.07.04-283x300.png 283w, https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Screenshot-2021-05-06-at-10.07.04-768x814.png 768w, https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Screenshot-2021-05-06-at-10.07.04-24x24.png 24w, https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Screenshot-2021-05-06-at-10.07.04.png 1134w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong><b><i><em>SD!:<\/em><\/i><\/b><\/strong>\u00a0Were there particular albums you were referring to as sort of sonic touchstones?<\/p>\n<p><strong>MB: <\/strong>Anything that was recorded during that golden period of record production, from the late \u201960s to the mid-70s. That\u2019s my benchmark, that time. All of the releases that I\u2019m into were more than likely recorded during that time, starting with The Doors\u2019 first album until [Jean-Michel Jarre\u2019s] <em>Oxyg\u00e8ne <\/em>in 1976. For instance, you\u2019ve got The Doors\u2019 first album in \u201967, which, compared to <em>The Dark Side Of The Moon<\/em> \u2013 you can see how much it\u2019s evolved. And it\u2019s that time in between that I\u2019m interested in.<\/p>\n<p>The Blue Elephant<em> is out 14th May on Acid Jazz<\/em><\/p>\n<span class=\"synved-social-container synved-social-container-share\"><a class=\"synved-social-button synved-social-button-share synved-social-size-24 synved-social-resolution-single synved-social-provider-facebook nolightbox\" data-provider=\"facebook\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"Share on Facebook\" href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fshindig-magazine.com%2Findex.php%3Frest_route%3D%252Fwp%252Fv2%252Fposts%252F4768&#038;t=Matt%20Berry%20talks%20with%20Shindig%21%20ahead%20of%20the%20release%20of%20his%20new%20album%2C%20The%20Blue%20Elephant&#038;s=100&#038;p&#091;url&#093;=https%3A%2F%2Fshindig-magazine.com%2Findex.php%3Frest_route%3D%252Fwp%252Fv2%252Fposts%252F4768&#038;p&#091;images&#093;&#091;0&#093;=https%3A%2F%2Fshindig-magazine.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2021%2F05%2FScreenshot-2021-05-06-at-10.06.20.png&#038;p&#091;title&#093;=Matt%20Berry%20talks%20with%20Shindig%21%20ahead%20of%20the%20release%20of%20his%20new%20album%2C%20The%20Blue%20Elephant\" style=\"font-size: 0px;width:24px;height:24px;margin:0;margin-bottom:5px;margin-right:5px\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Facebook\" title=\"Share on Facebook\" class=\"synved-share-image synved-social-image synved-social-image-share\" width=\"24\" height=\"24\" style=\"display: inline;width:24px;height:24px;margin: 0;padding: 0;border: none;box-shadow: none\" src=\"https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/social-media-feather\/synved-social\/image\/social\/regular\/48x48\/facebook.png\" \/><\/a><a class=\"synved-social-button synved-social-button-share synved-social-size-24 synved-social-resolution-single synved-social-provider-twitter nolightbox\" data-provider=\"twitter\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"Share on Twitter\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/share?url=https%3A%2F%2Fshindig-magazine.com%2Findex.php%3Frest_route%3D%252Fwp%252Fv2%252Fposts%252F4768&#038;text=New%20post%20on%20our%20site\" style=\"font-size: 0px;width:24px;height:24px;margin:0;margin-bottom:5px;margin-right:5px\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"twitter\" title=\"Share on Twitter\" class=\"synved-share-image synved-social-image synved-social-image-share\" width=\"24\" height=\"24\" style=\"display: inline;width:24px;height:24px;margin: 0;padding: 0;border: none;box-shadow: none\" src=\"https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/social-media-feather\/synved-social\/image\/social\/regular\/48x48\/twitter.png\" \/><\/a><a class=\"synved-social-button synved-social-button-share synved-social-size-24 synved-social-resolution-single synved-social-provider-mail nolightbox\" data-provider=\"mail\" rel=\"nofollow\" title=\"Share by email\" href=\"mailto:?subject=Matt%20Berry%20talks%20with%20Shindig%21%20ahead%20of%20the%20release%20of%20his%20new%20album%2C%20The%20Blue%20Elephant&#038;body=New%20post%20on%20our%20site:%20https%3A%2F%2Fshindig-magazine.com%2Findex.php%3Frest_route%3D%252Fwp%252Fv2%252Fposts%252F4768\" style=\"font-size: 0px;width:24px;height:24px;margin:0;margin-bottom:5px;margin-right:5px\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"mail\" title=\"Share by email\" class=\"synved-share-image synved-social-image synved-social-image-share\" width=\"24\" height=\"24\" style=\"display: inline;width:24px;height:24px;margin: 0;padding: 0;border: none;box-shadow: none\" src=\"https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/wp-content\/plugins\/social-media-feather\/synved-social\/image\/social\/regular\/48x48\/mail.png\" \/><\/a><\/span>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Since signing to Acid Jazz Records in 2010, MATT BERRY has become the most prolific artist in the label\u2019s history, releasing eight albums throughout a 10-year period. He began that decade as a little-known comedic actor whose homemade recordings had rarely been heard outside of his inner circle; at its conclusion, he was a BAFTA [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":4775,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"video","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[28,7],"tags":[777,247],"class_list":["post-4768","post","type-post","status-publish","format-video","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-features","category-music-videos","tag-acid-jazz","tag-matt-berry","post_format-post-format-video"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4768","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=4768"}],"version-history":[{"count":-4,"href":"https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4768\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/4775"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=4768"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=4768"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/shindig-magazine.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=4768"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}